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Krylov Winding and Emergent Coherence in Operator Growth Dynamics

Rishik Perugu, Bryce Kobrin, Michael O. Flynn, Thomas Scaffidi·September 29, 2025
Quantum Physicscond-mat.stat-mechcond-mat.str-elhep-th

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Abstract

The operator wavefunction provides a fine-grained description of quantum chaos and of the irreversible growth of simple operators into increasingly complex ones. Remarkably, at finite temperature this wavefunction can acquire a phase that increases linearly with the operator's size, a phenomenon called \emph{size winding}. Although size winding occurs naturally in a holographic setting, the emergence of a coherent phase in a scrambled operator remains mysterious from the standpoint of a thermalizing quantum many-body system. In this work, we elucidate this phenomenon by introducing the related concept of \textit{Krylov winding}, whereby the operator wavefunction acquires a phase which winds linearly with the Krylov index. We show that Krylov winding is a generic feature of quantum chaotic systems and is a direct consequence of the universal operator growth bound hypothesis. It gives rise to size winding under two additional conditions: (i) a low-rank mapping between the Krylov and size bases, which ensures phase alignment among operators of the same size, and (ii) the saturation of the ``chaos-operator growth'' bound $λ_L \leq 2 α$ (with $λ_L$ the Lyapunov exponent and $α$ the growth rate), which ensures a linear phase dependence on size. For systems which do not saturate this bound, with $h = λ_L / 2α<1$, the winding with Pauli size $\ell$ becomes \emph{superlinear}, behaving as $\ell^{1/h}$. We illustrate these results with two classes of microscopic models: the Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev (SYK) model and its variants, and a disordered $k$-local spin model.

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